The Art of Problem Solving Pre Calc Answers Key
+37 Can people stop posting questions from https://artofproblemsolving.com/ (AOPS)? Like a quarter of the questions on this site are from AOPS and almost all of Mellie's questions are from AOPS. This allows people to cheat on their homework and I don't retrieve this site was meant for cheating.
+95 I don't want to sound rude, but like... people come here because they demand help. People who post answers accept an explanation then they can acquire. :)
+427 True, the site wasn't ment for cheating this all depends on how the answerer teaches the concept to the asker. Equally @pushy said epople come here to learn if they need help which applys to any learning enviroment, Some people don't use APOS and some practice. The people tin acquire from the previous comments that were asked here thats role of the reason we take all the questions asked since the begining of web calcs beingness. If this bother's you then when y'all answer a question try to help the people on here larn over given a direct reply (Which I'yard not judging based off your question answering history)
+37 Okay, I was just tryna combat cheating. Melody had made a post about cheating and how this site isn't supposed to be used for adulterous.
+427 Information technology'southward al right combating cheating, frankly we need that here, more than people that don't desire to facilate cheating which will do more good. Yes melody has and a few others practice to seeing user's post unabridged homework questions. Now non every one does it and the sitings are rarer fortunatly and some user quit doign that and actually started lookng in the text book or listening to the instructor, But still we have had a few incounters so your in the right we just don't want to push it because some people may honestly need help and those that do don't deserve a bad name because other's want to/or facilate cheating and key answers into helping them.
+427 We combat this with having the asker show what they got or how they attempted the problem, and having them interact with the answerer. This shows maturity non all will do this and it's a piece of work in progress with us, merely were getting there.
+37 I mean it looks pretty obvious this person was trying to cheat on the homework:
+37 +427 I'1000 not certain the asker antiseptic that the answer was wrong but was asking for a better explination (The asker could have interacted more though)
+108 Aye, so as a current AoPS Academy student, I tin verify that this website has aTON of AoPS Academy homework questions. The lamentable thing is, this website is constantly being exploited because the people asking don'tIntendancemost how to solve the question; they but want the answer. Having taken AoPS classes from PreAlgebra through PreCalculus this twelvemonth at the first AoPS Academy site, I can personally testify well-nigh how the classes are a mental and emotional exam. Notwithstanding, that does hateful that some students will cheat in order to keep up their good grades for their parents. And then yeah, I don't think that BANNING or completely ignoring these people would be the right solution, but rather giving them hints to solve the problem instead of the answer right off the bat.
+1014 Well what are we supposed to ask? Wer can ask math questions on home work but if you continue posting on the same questions on math on the same topic and process that is considered adulterous! Simply if you inquire the same procedure once or twice that is fine!!!
Aint I right?
Dont outset making Decisions without a mod!
I accept read lots of tune's post on cheating I am pretty sure what I am posting is accurate!
Lets wait till a mod comes and finishs this discussion off or the admin we accept no correct to set the rules Because this is just turning into a disscusion about rules!
+37 The hint could exist an explanation of how to use a certain formula to solve the trouble. For example, when the guest asked for the answer to 164x + 37y = 1, CPhill could've simply shown the guest how to apply the Euclidean Algorithm instead of giving the guest the answer.
+427 The question here @Nickolas is more of how to prevent cheating from other students that dump homework questions on here.
+1014 We dont want to disscus rules without a moderator or the Admin!!!!!!
+427 Yes, Chpill did so and it'south jsut not him information technology's pretty mcuh all of u.s. and including me. Now some people have the fourth dimension to work through the problem others donn't have the ability so in society of showing how to complete the problem I would advise the asker explains how he/she wound up at at that place answer or if they don't know how to practise the problem entirly then the answerer should only give a helpful hint to guide he/sh through the process.
+427 @ Nickolas: At that place is no trouble with discussing this issue among students moderators are human to just similar the rest of us which gives anyone an equal ability to figure out what is best information technology besides helps admin decide the fate of the site to run across where regular user's make a stand up.
+108 Not necessarily, Nickolas. Someone may reply a trouble, but if they don't figure out the steps and keep them stored in their brain, and then it'due south useless. That's why it's meliorate to show someone the steps to a trouble rather than giving them the answer, specially if the person hasn't attempted it themselves and are just being lazy. Here we go back to the sometime phrase: If yous requite a man a fish, you'll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, you'll feed him for a lifetime.
+1014 Simply at present let me stop yous
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PERSON WHO Enquire THE QUESTION IS CLUELESS!
Basicmaths!
I take seen many who are who ask questions and information technology is mainly not adulterous people are just to lazy to figure and do the piece of work and the solve the problem even they know how to do it!
+427 In that location'due south no need ofr potent vocabulary I presented a possible solution to this state of affairs in ane of my post's above if you read them.
@Basicmaths, The saying is all true and I experience like we should put that on killersteve'south welcome to the forum post's...
+1014 What about this Melody posted!
https://web2.0calc.com/questions/what-practise-answerers-want-from-yous
Read the post
+427 @Nickolas that postal service, sum's up what all the users in the post were explaining....
+1014 And I was proverb do the pace footstep by step with the student similar melody did with me!
https://web2.0calc.com/questions/help-3_33\
Melody is a great teacher and Cphill :)
+37 +427 We sympathize that and we I and multiple other users pointed that out correct here in these posts so, what is the argument your proposing?
+1014 LOL pitiful didnt see your post virtually Melody!
+427 Although what we would be dainty if we could se a moderator stance on this, It's definetly an issue thats needs adressing.
+1014 Im saying about users arent cheating each of these post are in a different topic
+37 You can't say that with 100% certainty, you demand to gather the stats on how many users use the valuable answers provided by this forum to crook and how many users don't. It might even be that most users Do employ the answers provided by this fourm to cheat...
+1014 True but nosotros cant arraign or say them on all off the users or guest
+37 That'southward why we use the hint method proposed by BasicsMath
+427 Were not and oasis't @ nickolas your pulling an argument that hasn't even been up to debate every one acknowledged that this was true. Were focusing on the few that DO.
+37 Aye, we should be focused on the main point of this thread. (The few that cheat might exist the many that crook).
+427 Yes, and that would exist how to stop Facilating adulterous to the few that dump a pile of homework for every one to solve.
+37 Yup, the hint method proposed past BasicsMath seems to be a proficient ane.
+427 +427 To solve this I would say -
For those that take made the answerer's acknolwege that they are familar with the trouble and take proved so by showing there work either ina moving picture or in text. The reply and so can show them the whole problem in ane full answer on what they did and where they screwed up.
For those who do not post how they have solved the problem and why they need help, the answere's can assume they are clueless on how to solve the problem therefore indicating that they may not sympathize the problem may jsut exist throwing homework on here to maintain a grade, the answers tin ask question'due south to indicate if this is true or not, if it is truthful so the answerer should give helpful tip's on how to solve the problem rather than give the full answer.
+37 I like that thought, is at that place a code of bear on this forum? If so, maybe this could be added on the lawmaking of acquit.
+427 I beilive we should have that on k****r steve's welcome bulletin and have stuff liek this posted more often for new user's to see. and for those who exercise not reply to answer'due south should for when they don't evidence how they solved the problem should risk beingness liable to non having there question answered at all.
+427 There is actually a terms of service menu and a bunch of others(I haven't read them all) but a user known as thousand****r steve post'south a welcome message to the site that points out rules and why to go a fellow member.
+37 Oh okay, cheers for clarifying.
+37 Yes, we should aks the moderators or something ...
+108 +37 No problem, you simply had a good idea
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